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August 10th, 2006


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03:26 pm - More on Travel

Since I'm working very closely with American Express Traval and several airlines today, I thought I'd pass on some more information re: international and domestic travel...
 
INTERNATIONAL: For all flights departing from the United Kingdom, passengers may only take the following items through the airport security search points:
·     Travel documents essential for the journey (eg passports, tickets and visas)
·     Pocket sized wallets and pocked sized purses plus contents (for example money, credit cards and identity cards). Handbags are not permitted
·     Prescribed medicines essential for the duration of the flight, except in liquid form unless verified as authentic
·     Spectacles and sunglasses, without cases
·     Contact lenses, without bottles of solution
·     For those traveling with an infant: baby food, milk and sanitary items essential for the flight
·     Keys (but no electrical key fobs)
·     Every other item must be carried in customer's hold luggage
·     For clarity, passengers are advised that no electrical or battery powered items including laptops, mobile phones, ipods, remote controls etc can be carried in the cabin and must be checked in as hold baggage
·     All passengers must be hand searched, and their footwear and all the items they are carrying must be x-rayed
     
For further details on the travel guidelines for passengers emplaning in the UK, visit: http://www.dft.gov.uk. For further questions in UK, please call 0800 023 4300
 
DOMESTIC: For all flights to, from and within the United States, the following restrictions apply:
·     No liquids or gels of any kind will be permitted in carry-on baggage. Items must be in checked baggage
·     This includes all beverages, shampoo, suntan lotion, creams, tooth paste, hair gel, and other items of similar consistency. Except: Baby formula, breast milk, or juice if a baby or small child is traveling;
·     Prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger's ticket; and Insulin and essential other non-prescription medicines
·     Beverages purchased in the sterile area must be consumed before boarding because they will not be permitted onboard the aircraft
 
Passengers traveling from the U.K. to the U.S. will be subject to a more extensive screening process. Therefore, passengers are advised to pack lightly, without clutter to facilitate easier screening. Passengers should cooperate with TSA personnel at all checkpoints and gates, TSA Security Officers will also be checking carry-on baggage at the gate.

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From:lastwordy_mcgee
Date:August 10th, 2006 07:46 pm (UTC)

I really hope this changes by the time I head back to London

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I am absolutely not PACKING several thousand dollars worth of electronics in the CARGO HOLD, between the cameras and the mp3 players, not to mention the laptop. And what in holy FUCK am I supposed to do about my skin? just let it crack right off my face? Or else I have to have prescription face cream? Fucking hell, there has to be a better way. This effing country either does nothing at all or entirely too much. The lack of middle ground is really becoming ridiculous.

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From:bonkoif
Date:August 10th, 2006 07:53 pm (UTC)

Re: I really hope this changes by the time I head back to London

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Let's not forget that the rules on electronics are the UK's rules, not the US's rules.
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From:lastwordy_mcgee
Date:August 10th, 2006 07:55 pm (UTC)

Re: I really hope this changes by the time I head back to London

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It's a six+ hour flight, in either direction. Even if they let me keep it at EWR, they'll make me pack it at Heathrow. That's my concern. The flights we usually take, it's the flight going home that's the one I really need to stay awake on, and I'd still have to be worried about what kind of damage is being done to my things in cargo.

We didn't swing the pendulum far enough, prior to 9/11. Now, we're swung it too far.
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From:faireraven
Date:August 10th, 2006 08:26 pm (UTC)

Re: I really hope this changes by the time I head back to London

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It's bad enough that Continental fucked up my laptop for GATE LUGGAGE (which they are supposed to treat with greater care, since the people carrying them didn't know they would be checking them), but on UNDERCARRIAGE LUGGAGE???

Most luggage unfortunately can sit out on the tarmac for ten to twenty minutes... Meaning that if it's raining, snowing, freezing, baking, you name it, your luggage is now subjected to extremes that it would normally not (and should normally not) be subjected to.

I would suggest leaving the laptop at home, although I think the camera can take it better.

OMG my husband is going to scream if we have to do this come November and/or December... He's an audiophile. He gets the shakes when he goes through music withdrawal for an hour...
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From:lastwordy_mcgee
Date:August 10th, 2006 08:29 pm (UTC)

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I feel his pain. Virgin is all right, when it comes to in flight entertainment, and they actually do have quite an impressive selection of music channels. But most of the other airlines have fuck-all, at least in coach, which is going to make for a lot of very unhappy passengers. And I cannot even imagine what lack of electronics is going to mean for people who travel with teens and preteens. Fucking hell.
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From:faireraven
Date:August 10th, 2006 08:42 pm (UTC)

Re: I really hope this changes by the time I head back to London

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Virgin Atlantic is about the only airline that I can highly recommend for their inflight entertainment. Namely because Branson won't have a flight that runs if he's not going to be able to be entertained... The fact that I could play "bonk" when I took them in 2K was a definite plus, 'cause I had lost my needles...

But what about books? Magazines? They're even denying us that... I am a craftaholic and tend to take needlepoint and/or knitting with me... I'm going to die.

At least, on international flights. Thank goodness I don't have to take an international flight in the next six months... But the missing MP3s are still gonna haunt me.
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From:lastwordy_mcgee
Date:August 10th, 2006 08:50 pm (UTC)

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It's ridiculous. completely ridiculous. Well, hopefully I can talk someone into giving me a prescription for a sedative, because that's about the only way I'm getting through a long flight.

No music. No book. Hope they don't mind when I start fucking to pass the time. Unless perhaps they think I am hiding explosives in my vagina.
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From:faireraven
Date:August 10th, 2006 09:32 pm (UTC)

Re: I really hope this changes by the time I head back to London

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*SNARF*
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From:daydreambeleevr
Date:August 10th, 2006 10:36 pm (UTC)

Re: I really hope this changes by the time I head back to London

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No music. No book. Hope they don't mind when I start fucking to pass the time. Unless perhaps they think I am hiding explosives in my vagina.

i shouldn't laugh. i know i shouldn't, but that just cracked my shit up. damn. I'm still laughing. lmao. getting a little "leg room" might just start to take on new meanings.

kerry =)

From:wendyzski
Date:August 10th, 2006 08:08 pm (UTC)
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I can't wait to see the increases in claims from damaged laptops bashed to bits by baggage handlers.

What I don't get is the fact that you can buy beverages in the "sterile area' but then not take them aboard the plane. Yet you can take food - in fact they encourage it! This makes absolutely no logical sense.
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From:lastwordy_mcgee
Date:August 10th, 2006 08:15 pm (UTC)
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Most airlines have signs posted everywhere that they have no responsibility for any damages suffered by any items in the baggage hold. Their claim has basically always been that it's up to the passenger to make sure their things are packed with care, in cases that are protective and appropriate. I would bet the number of *claims* goes up, but that the amount of money actually paid out is negligible, at best.
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From:faireraven
Date:August 10th, 2006 08:27 pm (UTC)
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I *did* get Continental to admit to negligence with my laptop, but that's only because they FORCED me to check something that was only prepared for hand carrying.

Under normal circumstances they will take no responsibility whatsoever.
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From:rsteachout
Date:August 11th, 2006 02:18 am (UTC)
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No effing *handbag*?! No carry-on? Feckin what? And according to *this* I have to disconnect from my insulin pump since -- a: insulin is a liquid; and b: a pump is electronic. When the fuck are security going to start using their heads instead of losing their heads after these incidents? I hope some of this sh** clears up before Pam flies to Ireland in 3 weeks. It's her first trip flying out of the country and this has really rattled her. Bastards who caused this should all be lined up and shot in the balls and then left to bleed to death (or castrated without benefit of anesthesia).
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From:ca_amethyst
Date:August 11th, 2006 02:37 am (UTC)
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From what I understand if you have a doctor's note insulin is allowed. Call the airline and find out what their procedure is. Be prepared to be on hold for a LONG time. I spent almost the entire day on hold.
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From:rsteachout
Date:August 11th, 2006 03:04 am (UTC)
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In the UK not only would I have to have the doctor's note, the insulin would have to be *proven* to be insulin. How the heck does one do that, especially given the low intelligence of airport security personnel? Even if they believe a fresh bottle is "real" they'd probably make me change a whole canula set and resevoir right there. And there is still the issue that the pump -- an external device -- is electronic. It was bad enough going through security before this. Out of the several flights I've taken with my pump only *one* security screener seemed to have been informed about what an insulin pump is. Every other one was clueless and then surprised that it set off the detector, even though I showed it to them in advance and explained what it was. Of course, the first question always is "what is this" despite my having told them just 30 seconds before. One even asked if I could just not travel with me on the flight. I gave me a look and said through gritted teeth, "It's *attached* to me." "Oh" (followed by stupid look).

I'm just glad I *don't* have to travel anytime soon. And, like others have said elsewhere, if the restrictions continue I won't be traveling anytime soon. If they won't use their brains for an appropriate response, then they can just lose the tourism money. As for the asshats who trigger these things, I'm all for extremely painful, extended, swift punishment.

Mostly, though, I'm really pissed that this could screw up Pam enjoying her trip -- she's been planning this almost since the beginning of the year.

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